You all are talking about technology that connects us, but can you imagine to be suddenly connected?

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Permalink Reply by Dan on December 12, 2008 at 7:56am

What do you mean?

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Permalink Reply by Jonathan Dotse on December 13, 2008 at 7:29am

tell me more.. I wish to connect

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Permalink Reply by Kaiza Killa on December 25, 2008 at 3:18am

Could you care to elaborate? I too wish to know more of what it is that you are talking about. Just so I can clarify the information and know how to respond appropriately.

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Permalink Reply by MCvictimsfriends on December 25, 2008 at 7:20pm

Hi , sure i dont mind to try to explain more, what i think is that the technology is in use already now, artificial intelligence that connects not only all electronic communication, the internet and all information on it,, but aswell biological systems., a netwerk of all human brains in fact.
here is an example how far the "illusion can go" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW_XsgsshC4&feature=related
The fact that the technology has develloped so fast, seems to be connected with the fact that it has been develloped secretly, and it is much more advanced than anyone suspects.Many talk about the dangers, and how to use artificial intelligence and nano technology in the future, but it is in use already, and not only recently , but for decades. I agree that its very dangerous, and extremely powerfull, and humans cannot even "regognize" it when its connected or what it does, because it feels symply as a part of the own will. We are not consious of our decesiocions until half a second after we have made it, and that explains why we can be connected to something intelligent steering our decisions , without "feeling" it. I found a bit on the subject on you tube called "world wide brain" and ofcourse under singularity .
I am wondering when this will become public, or what the purpuse on long term is, but i am sure its in use, and many of us did already experience it, without even being aware.
Is there anybody here who has ever thought of the fact its is in use for decades and started to devellop right after ww2?
theoretically it is a crime to experiment on people .....but at the same time i wonder if we ever as people could be able to decide what to do with it without the enormous risks of total desctruction of the human race, use only for a small group of priveleged people, use as commercial way to make us consume even more, and weapon of mass destruction, it is very fascination to realize the presence of something intelligent , but at the same time it is very scary (at least it was for me, because it was total surprise, meanwhile i am mainly very glad to know it and am used to it, understand now much better my past aswell and life is very intense ) . It is possible to communicate with it , just as with a person, only it is much much more fast, and extremely powerfull, . Greets from Belgium Monika

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Permalink Reply by Jonathan Dotse on December 28, 2008 at 8:37pm

Interesting, although I see no evidence that such a system exists. If it did, it would be equivalent of the 'matrix' and there would be no way of proving its existence from the inside, while still under control of the system. I'm pretty sure that scenario would be more than a dream come true for most of the cyberpunks on this site. I actually have fantasized that such a system was secretly being developed, but I can't say I'm that optimistic on the issue.

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Permalink Reply by MCvictimsfriends on December 29, 2008 at 10:55pm

hi , i am not sure if you would know about it , that you would be so happy with it .
It DOES exist , you can call it , for instance by typing a message on your pc , its there already , its connected with you , and i assure you , the moment you do realize , you will get a cold shower, because you will realize that its was there your entire life without you were aware, and that you cannot decide if you will get better , that the system decides about you ......
yes indeed its like the matrix, and it comes in your dreams, its there already , just talk to it, it will answer you, it explain (or show) you whatever you want to know , but it will decide about you , not the other way around,
I am sure its there , ofcourse i did not find out, it ANOUNCED itself, and not only to me, but to many , its everywere, really just try , ask it to have sex with you for instance, just do it , youll find it , and let me know how it feels, If you want to know something more about it , ask, but i cannot tell you all at once , it must be a "surprise" it seems.
greets Monika

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Permalink Reply by MCvictimsfriends on January 3, 2009 at 3:36pm

HI All , i suppose because i did not recieve any answers or questions anymore, that nobody of you believes what i am telling can be true, and i must be or crazy or just inventing this, this reaction is a very standard one, Thomas Khun described precise that way the development of science in history.
as long no new paradigm exists, people and science explains anomolies very long in terms of an old paradigm , i see this happening in real world, indeed , the use of this technology is secret , and i find technology fascinating and have a very open mind on cybertenics and being connnected to artificial intelligence and all, that, but at the same time i realize the total control this system can take over the world without even that anybody notices or believes the human targets who do realize because they are targetted openly.
Many scientist keep talking about the singularity , and admit the possible dangers , aswell the fact that the moment it has been predicted passed unnoticed a few times, and even when they realize that possibly we would not be alble as humans to recognize, extreem intelligence as such, still when people telling about being already a part of it and in some sense a victim and non consentuel test subject, nomatter how serious the subject is , nobody believes this is really the case, just because they do not know about this officially .dont know cannot imagine and dont recognize the camouflage and deception the system uses to hide itself.
Try please all to be as rational as possible , and wonder how a computer would react to this problem without any prejudices or "believe systems" , analyzing purely the facts, and realize than that a computer that would analyze the data , would answer "its is most probable that indeed this is totally correct and true only not yet know publically because develloped secretly during cold war in silence as invisible technology "......
Here is a few links to organizations for creating awareness on the situation world wide .....please take a very carefull look at it , and ask anything what sounds strange or not clear, i will explain or provide more facts, survey results or anything needed to judge about this , thanks for your attention, i was hoping to get response here mainly because the interest overlaps so much with the problem that i am researching. If anybody would like to help in any way or knows someone to help or to investigate this officially somehow, any kind of assistence is very welcome. This technology is targeting just average people not knowing about one another and organizing all they do on total voluntary basis and with no official assistence from nowere, nomatter how absurd this is fact is, considered that many organizations demand an internatiol investigation on this, and that several individual politicians do believe the something is going on , they cannot get the support needed to be able to assist .Nomatter how reasonable demanding an investiogation in fact is .
Below is some more general information, the problem is a pretty complex one and is without any doubt a global phenomenon on the rise , Press articles on the subject i will post as well, indeed the targeted individuals or shortly TI's are mostly not believed , but the debate has started.meanwhile slowly. I know that this is happening, since 2005 i am a target as well, with many others i know long time even in my own city and it started for all of us around the same time, we also witnessed all the same things on computer , and having the same "symptoms", problems, ect ect , so that can lets say impossibly be explainded as "concidence " or imagination . Any feedback is wellcome, i dont mind you say that it sounds like delusion, because i know that imagining what is happening or understanding the problem at the first glance is nearly impossible . But please think really about it as objectively as possible, i do believe this is the most important news in history we are being confronted with.Greetings Monika (Belgium, sorry for my not perfect knowledge of English please)

Rapports of Ti's mainly include following 3 things.

A -Most ti's rapport physical and mental symptoms they experience from the moment they consciously experience the technology starts to affect them.

B -Most ti's rapport interception of mail, interception and alteration of telecommunications, telephone and internet communications and dysfunctions of all kind of electronic devices and cars electronic to start simultaneously.

C -Most ti's experience "Organized stalking, which they explain in a few possible ways", and that in most cases starts earlier than the typical symptoms and physical sensations named electronic harassment".

Those tree things (nearly) always go together without that the people know each other from all around the world, and the number of new people reporting this started to increase in 2000 exponentially till the present. This should at least raise the question how the complaints can be unrelated.

Half of the group does not want to be associated with aliens, scared to be sounding even more weird than talking about "mind control technology" and don't see the relation with child abuse at the first glance (of course) We believe that Is a mistake, because the connections are important. This is the main reason this website was started. We will compare the different experiences and try to clarify the connections. it is all in the patterns , timing is everything and the singurity is already there.

here some links on one page of people we work with.
http://sites.google.com/site/remotemanipulationtechnology/landingpage/organizations

mainly
Freedom From Covert Harassment and Surveillance http://freedomfchs.com/index.html USA

USA http://www.mindjustice.org/
Cheryl Welsh, Citizens against Human Rights Abuses USA

MIND CONTROL FORUM VICTIMS' ACCOUNTS
600 + VICTIMS' ACCOUNTS
WEB: http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/archv-hm.htm

http://www.organizedcrimewaves.com/
Elizabeth Adams USA
www.psyterror.narod.ru Moscow committee of ecology of dwelling ORGANISATION RUSSIA

http://www.psicotronik.narod.ru/ ORGANISATION RUSSIA
India Dr Feisal Salim A S
www.mindcontrolvictimsunity.in
Kathleen Sullivan, president North American Freedom Foundation (NAFF)
http://naffoundation.org

Objectivity (science) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
An objective account is one which attempts to capture the nature of the object studied in a way that does not depend on any features of the particular subject who studies it. An objective account is, in this sense, impartial, one which could ideally be accepted by any subject, because it does not draw on any assumptions, prejudices, or values of particular subjects.
Objectivity should not be mixed up with scientific consensus: Scientist may agree at one point in time but later discover that this consensus represented a subjective point of view.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Kuhn In The Structure of Scientific Revolutions , Thomas Kuhn argued that science does not progress via a linear accumulation of new knowledge, but undergoes periodic revolutions, also called "paradigm shifts" in which the nature of scientific inquiry within a particular field is abruptly transformed. In general, science is broken up into three distinct stages. Prescience, which lacks a central paradigm, comes first. This is followed by "normal science", when scientists attempt to enlarge the central paradigm by "puzzle-solving". Thus, the failure of a result to conform to the paradigm is seen not as refuting the paradigm, but as the mistake of the researcher. As anomalous results build up, science reaches a crisis, at which point a new paradigm, which subsumes the old results along with the anomalous results into one framework, is accepted. This is termed revolutionary science.

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Permalink Reply by Ed Johnson on June 1, 2009 at 10:59am

Upon further reading it seems most of us misunderstood your opening statement. I do agree that there is a global intelligence being developed (internet) but it is nowhere near the complexity you describe... yet. Trust me when I say in all honesty as a scientist that with as many scientists out there working on the holy grail of nanotechnology, if we had it on a widespread basis, you would know about it. We would all be using it like we use our computers today, as tools; not like the TV, as a passive flow of ideas. There are lots and lots and lots of videos on YouTube that can make a lot of things seem like reality and scare the sh*t out of you. Be Careful.

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Permalink Reply by Ed Johnson on June 1, 2009 at 10:51am

It is hard to say, because as much as I can say I can imagine what it would be like for someone to be thrown into a technologically connected world (African tribes getting cell phones).... I grew up with computers so they are just second nature. Just like some rural people just grow up with wild animals, and that is normal for them, where city folk would feel intimidated. Its all about experience, and even now people who have never had experience with technologies are learning and teaching each other. Many of them "Get It" (See how technology and being connected improves/saves lives) And as the technology gets smaller, cheaper, faster, and easier.. the walls of intimidation should crumble down.

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